You must log in or register to reply here. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? JavaScript is disabled. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Recoil of a 9# Rem. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. I'd opt for the 7RM. Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. 6.5 PRC. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. performance without stepping up to a full magnum length cartridge and rifle action was Noslers goal. I'm the same as you. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. Wyoming NR Special increase headed for the Gov's signature, Nutrition/Running/Strength Training/Other Workouts, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. I think the 7saum is here to stay. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. My vote would be 7RM as well. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Regardless what rifle cartridges were initially designed for, they can be perfect for other applications, which suggests the 7mm PRC could be your next do-all big game hunting cartridge. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. You must log in or register to reply here. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. 7rm for me. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Trustpilot. I am very pleased I am shooting retumbo using adg brass which is excellent brass highly recommend, shooting 165 Gamechanger at 3075, 180 Berger right at 3000. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. For reasons that I can't explain (though perhaps have something to do with me eating paint chips as a kid), I have an obsession with 3k FPS muzzle velocity. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Well use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. Full Member. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. You are using an out of date browser. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. This calls for a light rifle. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). .672., MV 2,900 fps. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. bullet wins the wind deflection category. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Brass is not going anywhere as a handloaders cartridge. Clear winner. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. Your results may vary. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. Trustpilot. Ive got the same dilemma. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Buy Now. For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. The difference might surprise you. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. I tested the 7 STW, 7 RUM, 7 Rem mag, 7-300 win mag and even a 7 Lapua. Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloder 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. And heres the same 175-gr. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. Its a criterion 26 barrel. Mag. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. Trustpilot. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). Reactions: Zeroit. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. The SAUM will be built on a long action. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. Ron Spomer This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. When in doubt, pull the 338 out! JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. .280 AI hands-down. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. factory 7mm Rem. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. Buy Now. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. SAUM can be found on the . They sharpened the shoulder angle. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. 12 Gauge 1". They straightened the sidewalls. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data 120 Grain 140 Grain 150 Grain 160 Grain 168 Grain 175 Grain 185 Grain PRIVACY USE ORDER PROCESSING SERVICE & RETURNS Copyright 2023 NOSLER INC. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Categories Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Buy Now. Mag. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. rick smith. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. Thanks. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Trustpilot. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Just $1 per month , The old 7mm Rem. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. 7mm Rem. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, waitll you haul around a 28-inch. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. $120.95. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. 92 grs. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. JavaScript is disabled. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. Thats fast enough to handle most 175-gr. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. Buy Now. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. You might think Remington started the 7mm cartridge trend in 1962 with its famous 7mm Remington Magnum, but by then the 7mm Mauser was already well known. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. Mag. Both were introduced in 2001. ELD-Match ammo I shot at FTW was rated 2,975 fps on the box. This rings home with me. When making your choice, don't factor in component or ammo availability. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. The sample Hornady 180-gr. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. $89.95. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. Worth considering. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. Mag. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. 7mm RemMag. 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . YMMV . Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". JavaScript is disabled. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. You go long. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Amazing bc too for the weight. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Supporter. Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. . I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. for my brand of hunting. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) ADG 28 Nosler. I would also add that if you are not going to optimize the rifle to get the most out of the 28 Nosler just stick with the tried and true 7mm Rem mag. 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My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Howdy. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. ADG 300 . Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC And that means more powder. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . ADG 300 PRC Brass. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. I did 7remmag. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. It made sense for me. Mag. I just did a 7mm build too. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. Ballistic twins. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. | Those are some impressive numbers. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. Diver160651 Who cares. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. You are using an out of date browser. 224 Valkyrie. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. . As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. 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